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something on the lines of 1. ..Nxb4 2. Nf5 Bf6 3. Qd6 .. ?
ReplyDeleteought to set up a board and check. :)
- Vaibhav
the tactic is btw 1. Nxb4 2. axb4 Red8
ReplyDeleteand now 3. Qg4 Rxd1 4.Qxd1 Rxc4 and a black is a pawn up having successfully turned the tables around, if it only wasn't for the 2. Nf5.
Your tactic is correct, but not the refutation. if after Nxb4 Nf5, the simply ...Bf6 attacking the queen and black is better. The real refutation lies at the end of the tactic you gave.
ReplyDeleteOh and yes if you continue 1. ..Nxb4 2. Nf5 Bf6 3. Qd6. but at the end of line whites rook on c2 also hangs.
ReplyDeletesomething like ...Nxb4 Nf5 Bf6 Qd6 Qxd6 Ncxd6 Nxc2 Nxc8 Rxc8 and black is piece up.
ReplyDeleteHarish,
ReplyDeleteThis is my two cents worth of analysis... (maybe worth less haha)
To start things off - the tactic black is seeking is 1... Nxb4(?) 2. axb4 Rd8 hitting the queen, rook ...etc.
But can white play 3. Qg4 Rxd1+ 4. Qxd1 Rxc4 and the key to the position is black's queen. You win the aggressive rook through pin. Note that you cannot pin on d3 (At first I had wanted to do this) because the pin is broken by Qa1+. Knowing this, the only logical move I could find was Qf1, protecting against check.
Hard to see for sure as it takes some time. One just needs to slow down and visualize the simple captures and sense the pattern at the end of the line. Verbalizing the features of the position also helped me. The "essence" of the tactic was a simple pin.
Thanks,
Tom
I was also thinking on the same thing the other day. But then, after 5. Qf1 Rc6 we have a (=/+)ish looking position on the board with black bishop ready to snipe the b pawn at its will.
ReplyDelete5. Qe2 looked better to me compared to Qf1 which makes Rc6 unplayable as bishop is hanging on e7. ( 5. ..Rc6 6. Qxe7 Rxc2 7. Qe8+ Kh7 8. Qe4+). But the Qa1+ acts as a spoilsport.
I duno.. I cannot see a definite win here for white as of now. Maybe my unwillingness to setup a board and then try this over, is costing me of those winning moves. :(
@Harish.. hehe.. I accept Qd6 was an oversight. 3. ..Rde8 still spells doom and has worsened effects than in the earlier case.
oww shucks! saw it! 5. Qf1 Rc6 6. pawn move! the end.
ReplyDeleteRight. I forgot to include the little fork at the end.
ReplyDeleteIndeed Qf1 and the fork is the farthest that must be seen.
ReplyDeleteYes a beautiful thing, to allow your opponent to do what they want to do and then...opps!!! or put another way "threat counter threat" threat greater threat!!! ab Rfd8 Qa1 RxR+ QxR RxNc4 Qf1! Rc6 and b5 wins material!!!
ReplyDeleteBarry Davis